Dismiss Notice
Welcome! Please read this announcement regarding the new Forums: Click Here"

Has Anyone Had Success With This Treatment?

Discussion in 'Treatments for Androgenetic Alopecia' started by Sandy, Jul 15, 2019.

  1. Sandy

    Sandy Established Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    I was with a group of women and one woman said her hair started to thin diffusely and especially around the temples, but she started taking 1 scoop of ultra protein collagen peptides each day and within 3 months all her lost hair grew back. She said her hair was always fine/thin but she freaked out when she started to get bald spots, which she no longer has. She must be around 65/66 but she looks much younger........she swears by this treatment.
    So I just purchased a bottle and am one week trying it. But I wonder if anyone else has had any success with it?
    I suppose I am trying so many things that if my hair does grow back, it may be hard to attribute to what caused the regrowth.......
     
  2. TinaM1968

    TinaM1968 Established Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2018
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    63
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    I tried it a couple years ago...sorry to say I saw no improvement
     
  3. Sandy

    Sandy Established Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Ohh, thats discouraging. How long did you take it?
     
  4. TinaM1968

    TinaM1968 Established Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2018
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    63
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Over 6 months then I did stop and restart again about a year later took it 3 months then and still nothing for me
     
  5. Sandy

    Sandy Established Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    This woman swears by it but i understand it affects everyone differently. I guess it cant hurt to try it maybe 3 months because i dont have other options at this point, my last option is the transplant
     
  6. TinaM1968

    TinaM1968 Established Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2018
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    63
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    I guess it might also depend on the cause of her hairloss. Did she say what sort of hair loss she had? I don’t think this would help anyone suffering with Androgenetic Alopecia or any hormonal hairloss, but I too have heard some women swear it has helped them, that’s why I gave it a go. My main issues are the front and temples and sides. (Mostly though it’s the darn front that looks like bangs that just never grow out ) they are about 4-5 inches long but just never grow, that was mainly why I tried it to begin with I though it was lacking something for the hair to grow long. I had a lot of breakage too so I also figured it would help with that. My hairloss (I’m figuring ) has to be poor thyroid function, high end dheas and poor absorption of vitamins due to The mthfr defect I have. My guess at this point is just as good as any of the drs I’ve seen the past 5 years lol
     
  7. Sandy

    Sandy Established Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    She only said she didnt know what caused it but that it all grew back within 3 months. I doubt she has same issues as me which are hashimotos as well as hormonal as i am post menopause. I am using progesterone cream and taking thyroid meds, which in themselves cause hairloss. And in fact my loss came around same time i went into menopause and then was dx’d hypothyroid/hashis.
    As the last dr said ‘there is nothing that will help except the transplant’. I was hoping to prove him wrong but i believe he is right. And since my loss confined to center front and temples he suggested using toppik. I finally ordered it but while i was in the US it hadnt arrived (i live out of the country) so have to wait for my next visit to collect it.
     
  8. TinaM1968

    TinaM1968 Established Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2018
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    63
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Hashi? What thyroid meds are you on? What are your levels? That in itself can cause hair loss your describing. I talked to a women with hashi and when her levels were off she had temple hairloss and frontal she was peri menopause so her hormones were at play too. I saw pics before and after and once she got her thyroid level in control and her progesterone levels up her hair came back. She did the gelatin from Great Lakes (green can) and insotiol ( her ac 1 she felt wasn’t optimal) also her adrenals were not in the best condition due to stress.
     
  9. Sandy

    Sandy Established Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    I just did a saliva test for adrenals and prigesterone, i was thinking it might possibly be that because the frontal loss has been sudden and it is shocking. I will test again my thyroid this week. Tks very much, it so distrssing
     
  10. Sandy

    Sandy Established Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    I was at hairdresser today and he suggested some booster treatment by nioxin but i doubt that will work
     
  11. TinaM1968

    TinaM1968 Established Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2018
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    63
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    It is distressing, I’m in that same boat. I walk everyday the past 5 years like I’m in a nightmare I can’t wake up from. Mine started at 44 I’m 50 now none of my sisters or cousin or aunts have this issue so I’m lost Adrenals cortisol thyroid stress ets all can cause hair loss I know I have a combo of issues makes things even harder to fix, if it even can be
     
  12. Sandy

    Sandy Established Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    I am 74. Mine started at around 52 or so, but it was only the very front center, I never understood from what it was, thinking it would grow back. Anyway, although it has bothered me over the years, some days were better than others, but it was only in the past 3-4 months that I see it accelerating. That is what is causing me so much anxiety. My sister doesn't have thyroid problem; and my mother's loss started maybe in her 80s but it was diffuse, it wasn't the pattern that I have..........
     
  13. TinaM1968

    TinaM1968 Established Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2018
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    63
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    I wish mine started later in life ..maybe I would have been able to enjoy life like it was a little longer regardless though hairloss stinks at any age
     
  14. Sandy

    Sandy Established Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    How bad is your loss?
     
  15. TinaM1968

    TinaM1968 Established Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2018
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    63
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    My temples are just about gone almost up to my center part on the left side, sides very very thin hairline 4 to 5 inch hairs that never grow out and visible loss just behind that hair. All over thinning and breakage like crazy! Let’s not forget the nape also pretty horrible . And yours?
     
  16. Sandy

    Sandy Established Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Probably as I have mentioned earlier, my primary anguish is with the front center where I lost a chunk right at menopause. But as I still have relatively good back and lower side areas, a lot of people said I had good hair. But then really primarily around feb/march this year I noticed I had no temple areas (I noticed this primarily on colouring my hair), and then OMG the front center became so bad I can see through it completely, it is so depressing. I can send photos. The temples although I have some empty spots, are comprised of thin vellus hairs.
    At the salon yesterday they did some scalp test and saw that the hair strands should have several strong hairs in each strand but I have maybe only 1 strand in each of many, I am sure this will eventually disappear as well............
    Right now I have spent a good part of the morning, first I went to retest my thyroid. Second on the computer I found a Dr Childs in Arizona, have you or anyone heard of him? He specialises in thyroid and hormonal issues. I don't think he takes patients but has written numerous articles which can be downloaded. But apparently he does give you a 45 minute consultation for around $500 plus upon reviewing your labs and other info. I may do this once I have all my tests completed. I want to retake a full blood panel but the next time I am in the US because medicare covers it. I live out of the country but go to the US every 2 months or so, so will do it then. Today I just did a thyroid panel here because I am wondering what accelerated the frontal and temple hair loss in the last couple months and if it had anything to do with the thyroid. Also last week when I was in NY I did a saliva adrenal test for adrenals and progesterone, I hope to have those results in a couple weeks........
    This is putting me in a terrible depressive mood, I don't even want to go out anymore or socialise or anything..........
     
  17. TinaM1968

    TinaM1968 Established Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2018
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    63
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Yes I have heard of him. I visited his site a lot reading articles. I tried his b complex for mthfr defect and his hair vitamin with no results my b12 actually went down on them! However he seems to be one of the most knowledgeable thyroid drs I’ve come across. Mine went fast (hair) started with the left temple just saw some thinning and within a year it was practically gone Every time I tried a thyroid med more hair went and never came back. First the top thinned then the Sides and all over. I stopped them a long time ago. Right now (knock wood) the loss doesn’t seem to be getting any worse however my free t3 was finally up last test I don’t know if that has something to do with it or not. I’m sure it does. I do t see regrowth though so idk
     
  18. Sandy

    Sandy Established Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Ok. I will ask you more when i get to my computer. But i tested thyroid this morning and have partial results, seems my reverse t3 is high at 23.4 (childs say should be under 15), and my free t’s ate sort of mid range when they should be high 3/4 range and tsh is high i suppise at 2.74. I am going to cut out t4 alone and stay with ndt in morning and instead of t4 at night to take 1/2 of the ndt. And see if that helps a bit because i rather not go on cytomel now. I will repeat full labs when i go to ny in early-mid august. And then i will sign up for Childs 45 min consultation.
    So maybe it is partially our thyroids and in my case could be menopause and adrenals (waiting for saliva results).
     
  19. TinaM1968

    TinaM1968 Established Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2018
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    63
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Yes. Mine is definitely all 3 as well. My saliva test I did last year showed high so my adrenals were/are an issue Well mine is peri menopause as I’m not full blown meno yet. Your rt3 is way too high sounds like your dumping T3 to rt3 Why are you taking t4 and ndt? That doesn’t make sense to me. Ndt has both t4 and T3. Should be all you need. If anything people add t3 to ndt not t4. I did cytomel for a bit massive hairloss! Never again! Your antibodies high too?
     
    #19 TinaM1968, Jul 18, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2019
  20. Sandy

    Sandy Established Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    You know how desperation works; last year I read a success case and contacted the woman and she said she was successful combining T4 with the NDT, so I did. But now I think that is when my serious hairloss accelerated (thinking about it).....maybe I am wrong. Of course as crazy as it sounds I was hoping my thyroid results would be a bit off so I could blame for the hair loss. My TPO is 221 which yes, is high, in March it was 117, so I don't know what I have been doing wrong. So as of today, I will take 1 grain of NDT in mornings and 1 grain at night, because I believe this could be reason for high TSH, low T3/T4 and high reverse T3. I did take cytomel years ago but it increased my alkaline phosphate levels so the doctor said to get off all T3, but I always stayed on the NDT, I just cut out cytomel. I didn't realise it caused massive hairloss, would the T3 in NDT cause this as well?
    And I am reading zinc/selenium should be taken to help the conversion. So I am cutting out many vitamins now, just the NDT, selenium/zinc, iron maybe 2x/week, D3, and I will keep with the collagen peptide, I might as well give a try.
    Let me know if anything works for you? Did you say you ever tried finasteride? Dr. Donovan suggested I take this and he gave me a prescription which I didn't fill while I was in Canada, but then the transplant doctor said not to take it, that it can cause breast cancer....I don't know if that applies post-menopausal though.......as I had said, whatever one doctor says, the next one refutes. But it does seem that this Westin Childs is extremely knowledgeable in thyroid and hormones and maybe I will try with him, at least for the 45 min consultation. At this point I don't plan to buy more products.
     

Share This Page