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Has Hrt (estrogen And Progestrone) Helped Anyone's Hair Loss?

Discussion in 'Treatments for Androgenetic Alopecia' started by electra, Oct 22, 2018.

  1. electra

    electra Established Member

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    Hi all. My cycling has stopped the last three months (though I just got a small period last week), and hair recession/falling out has been at all time high, mostly around temples/front scalp. I'm 49, perimepausal.

    I don't know what to do. Seems hair loss has ramped up. Lots of tiny hairs replacing longer hairs, lots of miniaturization. Estrogen low (though it was dominant for a while...though I guess it can be low but dominant, as my Progesterone is closer to 0, now...), I see it in the labwork, and in my crepey skin, and my dry, dry mouth and other places, and digestion issues.

    Not even sure I can tolerate Progesterone as HRT, as I tried it once and was SO tired.

    Does anyone know how often HRT helps with hair loss???

    I could use Rogaine. I hesitate to because it turns my hair gray (I color it), and does strange things to skin/eyes. And low chance of making things better.

    Should I just ignore all of it, and plan to dye my head pink (after I shave it)? Seriously, docs don't seem to know squat about any of this. I've been to naturopath, gyno, hormone specialist...all different answers. Nothing definitive. Thanks for any advice!!!
     
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  2. electra

    electra Established Member

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    Hi Tina, my DHEA sulfate lab was 185. Haven't checked T.

    Why did you try only Progesterone, and not Estrogen too...?
     
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    electra Established Member

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    Yes, temples and front hair line. More recession and miniaturization, there.
     
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    You are telling my exact story.49, perimenopausal with irregular periods. Been to every doctor - dermo, primary, naturopath, ob/gyn. Noticed hair loss about a year ago when I was curling my hair and realized, where's my hair? It's likely been going on for longer than I suspected, but I have always had thin hair and have been complaining about the change in texture (dry, thinner, brittle) over the past few years, plus my hair has become curly as well but just in the back - totally hormonal as I've always had fine straight hair. So I am doing all the things you can think of : minoxidil, viviscal, multivitamins, healthy diet with protein and veggies, and also spironolactone (50 mg for now) and Nioxin shampoo. And the laser cap as well! My dermo is planning to get trained on doing the stem cell treatments and might consider this. I don't know what else to do - I am getting so embarrassed about it since I had thin hair to begin with and it seems noticeable to me. I just don't have much more hair to lose, especially on the sides and at temples! Behind / above the ears has been the worst. I am now thinking of adding estrogen - just not sure that adding hormones will help.

    Like you, I've thought about just shaving it so I would stop worrying about it. I keep looking for new hair growth - and I am getting tired of it. My observation is that minoxidil does grow hair, but some of it is white, fine weak hair that can easily fall out. Completely useless hair. However, there are also new brown hairs mixed in as well so it's a bit confusing. For the bit of hair growth at the hairline, it's probably worth it. I notice literally no hair growth by my ears which is super upsetting.

    Please let us know if you have success with the estrogen. that might be my next step! good luck to you.
     
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    Same exact story for me. Started losing hair 3 months after stopping pill at age 51. It has not slowed since. I have been to numerous docs and been on a variety of hormone therapies, finasteride, spironolactone, etc. - no change, in fact sometimes I wish I would have done absolutely nothing because I wonder if what I am doing is making things worse. My two cents - absolutely DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY on PRP injections! I was told repeatedly that it would stop the shedding and it did absolutely nothing. Maybe it helps people with stress related hair loss or some other medical cause, but I think it is a huge waste of time and money.
     
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    I share your story as well. My hair loss started when I stopped using progesterone cream after being on it for 6 months and I have had ups and downs with hair loss ever since. The hair loss is definitely hormonal and I have spent so much time trying to find an effective treatment through research, a variety of drs (naturopath, integrative, acupuncturist, nutritionist, etc). Sometimes I wonder if I had just left my hair alone initially, my body would have figured out the best answer on its own. Now, I am perimenopausal and have not had a period since this summer. My hair loss ramped up when my period stopped and I had been experiencing night sweats. Right now, I am trying an acupuncturist herb blend and progesterone serum, as well as black currant oil, fish oil, vitamins c, e, magnesium, selenium, zinc. In the past the combo of black currant oil, fish oil, vitamin c and the acupuncture herbs helped slow the loss. I also try to cut out sugar, gluten, dairy, anything that is inflammatory. Now, blood tests show that all my hormone levels are extremely low and I am heading toward menopause. Additionally, I took black currant oil without fish oil for the past year and have caused an imbalance in my fatty acids which may be making hair loss worse? Hard to know.... I've read Lara Briden's website and it seems like some of her advice could be helpful. Here's two links:

    https://www.larabriden.com/causes-of-hormonal-hair-loss/
    https://www.larabriden.com/things-to-know-about-female-hair-loss/

    Besides, the hair loss I wake up in the middle of the night and often can't fall back to sleep. The insomnia coupled with the hair loss makes a bad combo. It's helpful to talk to other women in the same spot and share ideas. Please let us know if you find solutions that are helpful. Good luck to everyone!
     
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    Do you think the laser cap is helping? Ive been considering it
     
  8. electra

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    Everyone, thanks for your replies. Forgot to check in for a few days....

    I still have to try Progesterone again, to see if I can tolerate it (makes me so darn fatigued), if I were to do estrogen/progesterone combo. Then again, I've just got my period after three months of not having it, and I can tell my hormones are up and down again.

    It's almost helpful to hear that other things really haven't helped, because I have other health/lifestyle issues that I'd like to focus on more than the hair. Headscarves are a lifesaver (and hats, too, up in the mountains where I live!).

    That said, it's distressing to see the 'thinning forest' of my hair, and see the line that is slowly receding...Ugh. Ugh.

    Let's keep this thread going. I'll post with any updates. So helpful to hear form others going through the same thing!!!! As if getting older weren't traumatic enough, right?? xo
     
  9. electra

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    Photos of my hair, currently...There is a 'line' of fully-growing hair that keeps receding, and baby hairs where the 'line' used to be...And the front of the line looks like a sparse forest. I can see the space between the hairs. :(
     

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    Ugh. So sorry, Tina. And yeah, when I say 'baby hairs' I mean miniaturized hairs...I feel like each day the 'normal' hairs go away or look smaller...

    Can I just tattoo my head with flowers or something?? And say goodbye to hair problem? ;)
     
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    Just saw your post and wonder if you found any remedies since your last post. I have same problem with receding hairline and temple areas. I have tried everything except rogaine and the others that i understand dont give quality hair. I also am on low dose progest/estrogen creams, i dont know if it helps or is worse. I keep thinking of a hair transplant but am worried could get worse.
     
  13. electra

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    Hi Sandy! I'm back here after a while away. No, I haven't really found anything. Not on HRT at all, was on 82F (finasteride/Minoxidil serum) but honestly, I just feel too lazy to do it every day, and it made me a bit jittery.

    How are you feeling on the E/P? Is it helping with other things? I'm perimenopausal and I've noticed crepey skin and other dry stuff, and wondering if it would be helpful. But...I don't know! I do know this isn't a gyno forum so probably shouldn't post about that. Feel free to message me!
     
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    Hello. Not sure i using these replies correctly. Well i have been on low dose E/P but dont know if has helped. I think the quality of my (remaining) hair is stronger but i still have not remedied loss in center front and temple areas. I also dont know how to read results well, indications seem i am estrogen dominant but i dont know, i divided progesterone by total estrogens or should it be estradial and do you have to concert so both are pg or nl, i would think so. i use the creams at night and find i am sleeping better though. I use only one click estrogen and a tiny pea sized of progesterone, in different areas and i stop use first 5 days of each month.
    i have (reluctantly) started using toppik a couple sprays in the center front behind the hairline which does help mask the empty look in the front. I use very little but am less self conscious about it using it. I can say when i was using 4 clcks of estrogen my hair was terrible and it was another doctor who cut the dose.
     

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