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Discussion in 'Hair Transplants for Women' started by farha, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. farha

    farha Guest

    does anyone know about new hair institute any experiences????
  2. HairOnTilt

    HairOnTilt Guest

    No but I am going to check it out here in Los Angeles. So wish me luck! I am soooo scared.
  3. angel706

    angel706 Guest

    Ladies, I would avoid this place if I were you. They are a hair transplantation facility (not sure if you knew that from what you posted), and if you are going to even CONSIDER hair transplantation, only consider the best of the best. This company does not fit that description.

    I will also tell you, as someone who has been there, that if you are a woman experiencing hair loss, the results you get from a hair transplant will likely not satisfy you. All it will do is move the existing hair on your head from one place to another. You will not end up with more hair than you started out with...in fact, you will probably end up with a slight net loss (if you are lucky) because of the greater risk of shock loss in females.

    I had a hair transplant almost two years ago, and am now looking into wigs instead.

    If you cannot be deterred from looking into transplantation, I would suggest you at least look at some of the top-notch docs, like Jeffrey Epstein, Alan Feller, Hasson & Wong, etc. I wish I had. Maybe then I wouldn't be looking into wigs...but probably still would.

    In my opinion, even the best transplant surgeons can't provide enough density to satisfy most women.

    Sorry to sound like a downer. I just think transplantation is nothing to take lightly. It's expensive, uncomfortable, and the wait for results can be emotionally excruciating.
  4. Lauren37

    Lauren37 Guest

    Angel - I had a hair transplant in Dec of 06 and concur with your statements. I had mine done by one of the best surgeons as well. A few months into it, the transplant sites started to grow - and grew for a few months. By July/August of this year, all of the hair around the sites had fallen out and about half of the transplanted hair. I sit here today with drastically less hair than I had before I did the hair transplant and areas that are 90% bald. I though shock loss was something that happened fairly immediately, but for me it took many months later. I dont think we realize as women that the hair that is transplanted is still subject to fall out unlike most mens.

    I feel that my doctor was not at all up front with me regarding expectations. I think that is why we dont see a lot of pictures of women after a hair transplant or ones that had it done several years ago, then a picture of their hair now. My doctor actually told me that 40% of his patients are women. If so, why does he have the same 2-3 pictures of women that he has had posted on his site for the last few years? I asked my doctor about shock loss as it was a HUGE concern....he reassured me that it was a probability but wouldnt be noticeable compared to the quantity of new hair I was gaining. I feel that these doctors are playing up toward the female population unfairly when they know that its not a good solution for most of us.
  5. HairOnTilt

    HairOnTilt Guest

    Thanks so much ladies. My father just got a transplant at bosley and he was told that he had more of a female pattern hair loss. He had is done last year and he looks like a chia pet. He has had so much hair growth it is unreal. He doesn't even look like he had a thinning problem. The doctor felt that it was because he went in early and didn't wait until there was too little hair to transplant. I want to talk to as many people as I can before I consider it. I just feel like I have to take a proactive approach and at least inquire about it as I have seen the positives. I will keep you posted on the journey.
  6. HairOnTilt

    HairOnTilt Guest

    p.s. Angel who was your surgeon. Dr Rassman ? If you feel more comfortable please PM me. Thanks
  7. angel706

    angel706 Guest

    HaironTilt, if your dad got a good result at Bosley, then he was one of the lucky ones. I don't say that to be mean, it's just a fact. Do a Google search on Bosley and see how much negative stuff comes up. Results there range from decent to spotty to terrible. If you are seriously going to consider a hair transplant, then DO YOUR RESEARCH!!! I would avoid the "hair mills" like Bosley, NHI, etc.

    Do yourself a big, big favor and go to http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com. This is one of the most thorough sites out there on the subject. Research the docs, spend lots of time on their forums, read about other people successes (and some who've NOT had success) before you decide if this is something you seriously want to pursue. If it still is, I wouldn't waste time consulting with anyone else other than the best of the best. After spending some time doing some research, particularly on that site, you will begin to get a feel for who that is. I'll give you a hint...it sure isn't Bosley.

    My doctor was Blaine Lehr from OKC...he is listed on Hair Transplant Network as a "recommended" surgeon. I feel like the work he did for me was solid, and I didn't have any problems with healing. The result I got made some cosmetic difference, but was not as dense as I would have liked. It helped, but was not nearly the home run I had hoped for. You want a surgeon who can give you great density (at least 50-60 follicular units per cm2...I probably got more like 30-35/cm2). You want someone who uses the most up-to-date methods and the smallest incisions possible. Cost should not be a factor. Neither should be location.

    Once you do some research, you will find that the top docs actually cost less than the Bosleys and other hair mills. The reason? They aren't having to spend tons of money on advertising. The best work speaks for itself.

    If it sounds like I'm trying to scare you, well, I am. What you are considering is surgery, and has the potential to be destructive to your body and your self-esteem if you get in the wrong hands.

    Go to the site I pointed you to. Research, research, then research some more.
  8. Deirdre

    Deirdre Senior Member

    Sep 17, 2006
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    Angel- thanks for the info, as I keep hair transplants at the back of my mind as an option since I have so much hair growing down on my neck and just not enough on the top. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is! I will definitely do some research on the subject.

  9. HairOnTilt

    HairOnTilt Guest

    Thanks Angel for looking out! I know this is a serious decision and I am going to approach it in a serious fashion. There is a ton of research that I have to do. Do you use any topical treatments or hair concealers? Thanks again.

  10. angel706

    angel706 Guest

    Hair on Tilt, sorry it took me a few days to get back to you about your question.

    I briefly tried Rogaine in the summer of 2003. Hated it, hated it, hated it. Only used it for about 2-3 weeks, if I recall, but I had to stop because it was making my scalp flake and itch pretty badly. Yuck. It also made me start growing dark hairs on my forehead. And from what I've read about Rogaine, it's not nearly as effective for loss in the frontal/temple regions, where I have loss.

    I used Toppik off and on when I was going through postpartum sheds. I didn't mind using it for those weeks (maybe a few months?) at a time, as it did help things look a little better. I don't think I would ever want to use it long-term though. Just my preference. I still have some in my medicine cabinet, though, and very occasionally will sprinkle a little on when the mood strikes. But I haven't used it in quite a while.
  11. My husband is a doctor and we both looked into hair transplantation for me (he had male pattern baldness but he began taking Propecia and had fantastic results--he is 41 with a great head of hair) and we concluded that it would definitely not give me nearly the result I want. I don't want to just cover up spots here and there, I want that thick lush mane of hair that I had and hair transplantation is not going to get it, at least for me. I think there are people who can benefit from it but you have to go in with some very realistic expectations. I was seriously ready to go in for hair transplantation until my husband and I talked to some dermatologists, surgeons, etc., then I got the sobering news that it probably wouldn't be worth it for me. Best wishes to the ladies who get it, though. Each person is very individual in their needs and what they will respond to so I definitely would not discourage someone IF it seems right for that individual.
  12. Janices

    Janices Guest


    Just wondering... if your husband had such good results with Propecia, would you consider it for yourself (unless of course you are planning on having kids)?
  13. First of all, avoid hair mills like Boseley and NHI. They are hacks.

    Second of all, I don't recommend hair transplants for women. I went with Dr. Epstein, one of the best out there apparently. He even mocked me about my fears about shock loss b/c he said that I didn't hair to shock (rude!). He and his staff were nice and professional, except for that lapse, but he does have an attitude.

    More to the point, I am 4 months post-procedure and I am practically bald. The hair I had before the transplant is gone. I am looking into wigs, and that is a frustrating process b/c the wigs I have found and bought are wiggy and expensive.

    But a transplant just shouldn't be an option. I had complications, and it has been a traumatic situation all around. This is my second transplant--the first time with a hack and the second time with a world renowned doctor and frankly, at this point, i do not see an ounce of different. Small incisions and technologies are supposed to make the latter better, but as I look at my empty head, I wish I had saved my money and gone on a long trip.
  14. hairyape

    hairyape Guest

    Dear Asian Female,

    I'm so sorry to hear of your terrible experiences with hair transplant surgeries. I"m even more dismayed at the rude and insensitive comments from Dr. Epstein! Is he aware of the nature and degree of your shock loss? To have a recent transplant resulting in having to shop for wigs is an outrage!

    I wish you resolve.

  15. Deirdre

    Deirdre Senior Member

    Sep 17, 2006
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    Hi AF- I am so sorry to hear what a bad time the hair transplant has resulted in. That was kind of my last hope if all else fails, as i t appears to be doing, so it is good to know that the money could be better spent on other things. I wish more women who have had transplants would share their experiences. The guy I consulted did say not to do anything now - that it would just kill off the hair that is still there- but I really only wanted to see if I had enough hair around the edges to use to move around, which I do. Sigh. This whole thing just sucks big time.
  16. hairyape: Thank you for your comments. Just hearing the empathy makes me feel so good. I think hair transplant is just not for women. It seems that the way our hair loss takes place--the diffuse loss--just makes it a pain. Dr. E. is aware of the shock loss, but it is the same mantra: it takes a year to see any new growth. His own literature says that hair growth will be seen 3-4 months after surgery. And now it is 1 year. And I am hearing others being told to wait 2 years. And he is considered the best hair transplant specialist for women in the world.

    I am so angry that I have to get wigs now. More money down the drain. I am just so exhausted. Thank you for listening, hairyape (I love your username).

    Deede, nice to hear from you :) . I have been in no mood to interact at all otherwise I would have come in more often.

    You know what, like you said, it just sucks big time. The wigs are all wiggy, medications are a joke, and surgery is not a viable option. I just dont know how we are all supposed to get through this. It's not like we have any hope to reach for. Bah.

    If your doctor said that you will lose hair if you hair transplant now, then you have more hair than I do, and you really must not do an hair transplant. Doctors need to mention that there is a 99% chance of shock loss, and PERMANENT shock loss in women.

    At this point, 4 months post procedure, I recommend that you spend the money on wigs, etc., or a nice long vacation. With the money I spent, I could have had a better time traveling than dealing with complications.

    All that said, Deede, I had to get the procedure done--just for myself. I wanted to know for myself that I had left no stone unturned, so to speak. Now that the final stone has been unturned and underneath I found nothing but dirt, well, now I need to figure out how to go on from here.

    How are you doing, Deede? How are you holding up?

    Big hug to all!
  17. farha

    farha Guest

    I am so sorry AF I do not know know why we have this hair loss I am loosing hair again and so worried what to do with your story hair transplant is out for me now.I am 31 with 2 kids and i don't know how much hair loss i have to face can i try harbal hair vitamins?do they help?

    Take care.
  18. sunnyone1

    sunnyone1 Guest

    AsianFemale37, Have you joined Wig Support ? It's an online support group of wonderful women who help each other find the best wigs. We also give each other valuable info on all aspects of wig wearing and wig maintenance. Here's the link: http://groups.msn.com/heralopecia/main.msnw. Hope this helps.

  19. Jasmine

    Jasmine Guest

    Hi Asianfemale37,

    First off, I want to thank you for your detailed posts about your experience with Dr. Epstein. I am so sorry to hear that hair transplant w/ him did not meet your expectations. I was just wondering how you're progressing... I think you're right around 5 months P/O. Have you seen any regrowth???

    Thanks again,
  20. Laura T.

    Laura T. Guest

    Hi my name is Laura, I live in California I have visited many hair Transplant Doctors over the last three years. I am going to get a Hair Transplant some time in August of this year. the Doctor who is going to do my Transplant will be Dr. Rasmon or Dr Pac. Dr. Rasmon is the founder of NHI. If you go to their web site you can read their Bios. I have had six consults with them over the years when i first started loosing my hair Dr. Rasmon or Dr Pac would not do the Transplant on me because they said i could do more harm than good meaning i could get shock loss. so Three years later they said ok, we can do the procedure now so thats my plan is to do it!! Anyway the other Docs i saw were ready to do my Transplant when i really did not need it yet. I think Dr. Rasmon And Dr. Pac will do a great Job and pray it turns out fine!

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