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New line of sulfate-free hair care

Discussion in 'Styling & Hair Care Tips for AGA Sufferers' started by snowflake, Mar 7, 2009.

  1. snowflake

    snowflake Experienced Member

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    I was in Superstore last night and I noticed this new product from L'Oreal. Anyone trying it yet?
     
  2. hwag5149

    hwag5149 Guest

    i remember someone all the board mentioning it. What is it called? I want some!
     
  3. Cooper21

    Cooper21 Guest

    I just googled it -- it's called EverPure.
     
  4. snowflake

    snowflake Experienced Member

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    Yes, that is right. They have a whole display about it and many products. I am sure more companies will be following suit!
     
  5. I'm the person who originally posted about L'Oreal EverPure.

    I've been using it a little over a month. I came across it in the discount area at Walgreen's! For some reason they weren't going to carry the Volume line just the Moisture, so I picked up the Volume Shampoo and Conditioner for $3.49 each. The regular price is $6.99.

    I still rotate it with an SLS shampoo (Dove or Thicker Fuller Hair) because the Ever Pure doesn't give my hair much volume.

    I think using it has helped heal my scalp scabs, so it's definitely mild enough for people with scalp issues.

    I guess you can use it, then get your volume through volumizing styling products after you wash it. That's what I do on the days I use the Ever Pure....I use lots of volumizers!

    I'm not sure Ever Pure has a volumizer styling product. I wanted to try the VIVE High Gloss volumizer, but once again, the local Rite Aid didn't get delivery.
     
  6. miche777

    miche777 Guest

    What is an SLS shampoo? What does that mean? I've seen it mentioned before but don't understand it.
     
  7. Hi Miche,

    That's the 'bad stuff' in shampoos..Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS)...Sodium Dodecyl Sulfate (SDS or NaDS)....are chemicals which give shampoos their cleaning ability...they also add this stuff to industrial cleansers!

    Then there's also Sodium Chloride added to shampoos! Salt is very bad for hair. I guess salt is added to counteract the the 'sudsing action'?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_lauryl_sulfate
     
  8. finaleofseem

    finaleofseem Guest

    After a week of using EverPure ... I'm in love.

    I think I said earlier that I got the "smooth" variety b/c my hair is so short now, and I was more concerned with texture than with getting a lot of volume, since with more volume my hair looks really round.

    Words cannot describe how much I love this shampoo/conditioner combo. My hair has always had this tendency to be wavy, so it's kind of coarse/won't lay flat normally. Even when I use a straightener and heat blocking products, it feels like it wants to frizz back up. Not with this stuff. While I still need to straighten my hair, it now feels buttery soft and smooth once I'm done, and I don't need to straighten it with as much heat or for as long.

    I'm now a loyal customer!
     
  9. miche777

    miche777 Guest

    OH NO! I never even looked at what's in my shampoos! I always buy thickening shampoos and I use a German herbal hairloss shampoo, but I'd better check out the ingredients of these things. Thank you.
     
  10. angieangie

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    I found this on makeupalley. It's a site where people go to review products they've used:

    PLEASE DO NOT BUY. IT DOES CONTAIN INGREDIENTS SIMILAR TO SLS.
    If you are looking to avoid SLS or ingredients similar this is not the one for you.
    It has sodium lauryl sulfoacetate as the 3rd ingredient. It is an organic salt but still a salt.
    disodium laureth sulfosuccinate is also in it and is lumped in the Surfactants group with SLS salt group.
    Just because they use organic does make the salts less harmful to your hair. The whole shampoo is loaded with different Sodium ingredients.
    The conditioner contains mineral which is not that great for your hair.
    But do not take my word for it. Look at back of the bottles. I was shocked after purchasing 4 tubes. I read on blog about it still have ingredients similar to SLS. I looked them up and it was true


    I thought sodium was the only part of SLS that WASN'T bad....
     
  11. finaleofseem

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    I don't think the sodium is the problem, either.

    I've been rotating it with a Giovanni product, and I really don't notice anything bad about it, save that it takes my hair longer to dry when I use the L'Oreal stuff. But my hair feels softer and more hydrated, and it seems to help my scalp. I'd say the same of the Giovanni organic shampoo/conditioner I use, too.

    I suppose it's personal preference.
     
  12. Daisy Chain

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    I use Burt's Bees. The shampoo and conditioner doesn't give me the volume SLS containing shampoos do, but since sodium lauryl/laureth sulphate can irritate and/or dry skin, I figure I can do without it in my hair products. I just wish there was Burt's Bees hair styling products as well.
    I think we'll be seeing a lot more products out there with less perfumes and irritants, as more and more people both develop sensitivities and/or become more aware of what they are putting on and in their bodies.

    There's a wealth of information on these ingredients on the internet. Even on wikipedia there's a lot of info on sodium lauryl sulphate and chemically similar compounds. The trick is to decipher what is truth, and what is hype (especially when a site is promoting or selling a product - beware of their claims!).
     
  13. Tori

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    It's even hard to decipher on sites that don't sell anything. I remember the beginning of the SLS scare, there were "quotes" from actual studies that weren't true and that can take on a life of it's own. Untruths spread and/or people don't know how to really read the info. Something that they inject into mice in extreme doses won't have the same effect on us because a) we're not injecting it or drinking it and b) we're not using it in the same extreme doses. There are many ingredients made by nature that are more irritating than some of the ingredients with a bad name.. not to mention the process some of those ingredients go through to become usable as a hair care product or cosmetic. I don't avoid sls, I just wont use it when it's one of the top ingredients. That's just a lazy/cheap way of getting a really bubbly product and will usually dry the crap out of you. If you're going to stay away from sls because of hair loss or just to be safe (hey why not, there are always better alternatives) then make sure you know exactly what you're swapping it for. Even some of the "seems safe" ingredients aren't so great for you in certain products or have a different effect once combined with something else on the list. There's so much research involved, it's best to go through the trial and error and just base your decision on what leaves you with the desired results.
     
  14. roxrog

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    FYI on non sulphate shampoos. This is specifically for Purology, but I suspect it is true for all non sulphate lines.
    When you are using a Sulfate Free line of shampoos you must use only their styling products (Or another sulfate free line's styling products.)

    Why? The sulfate free shampoos aren't very good at removing products and there are many that they can't remove.

    Purology will tell you not to sell your clients the shampoos unless they are using all the sulfate free products of Purology or another sulfate free line.

    Loreal now owns Purology product..this may not be a fact given out in store products and some hairdressers aren't even aware of it. I was surprised to learn about it myself.

    You can use any shampoo and Purology styling products but you can do it the other way around. It won't benefit your hair.
     
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  16. jade76

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    I just wanted to add something about the Pureology line.... I used their shampoo, conditioner, and hair serum for about 4 years. During that time I developed my insanely itchy scalp problem! I didn't make any connection to the shampoo or conditioner but noticed it went away when I switched to a different shampoo. I now use fekkai "more". The pureology bottle says it is "sulfate free" but I swear (correct me if I'm wrong pureology users!) that the list of ingredients on the back contains sulfates. Regardless, it was not the right shampoo for me and seemed to contribute to some of my scalp issues.
     
  17. Tori

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    Not sure what the ingredients are, but they usually swap for other sulfates or harsh ingredients that can cleanse as well. A cousin in some form or another.
     
  18. Spiece80

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    SLSA seems to be safe:

    http://www.hgspecialist.com/informatie/blog/94.why-good-shampoo-does-not-contain-sls


    What is the alternative?
    In all, there is a growing demand for shampoos without SLS or SLES. A recommendable alternative is sodium lauryl sulfoacetate(SLSA). Although this substance sounds very similar to both SLS and SLES, it is not a sulfate and lacks many of the negative traits discussed earlier.

    SLSA is extracted from coconut or palm oil and is much friendlier to the skin. It is not aggressive and irritating to the skin. Also, it doesn’t dehydrate the skin. Contrary to SLS and SLES, SLSA is hydrophilic, meaning it is dissolvable in water. Due to this, no residuals remain on the follicles after a shower. Also, the dioxane hazard is absent in SLSA shampoos.

    Despite these clear advantages, SLSA is not yet broadly applied in shampoos. This is simply because it is more expensive to produce, and is subsequently only used in high-quality shampoos.

    DLS:

    http://slsfree.net/disodium-laureth-sulfosuccinate/

    Disodium laureth sulfosuccinate is a chemical found in hair and skin products. Quite simply, it’s a de-greasing, emulsifier, and foaming agent used in many shampoos and other cleaning products much like SLS and SLES. It’s not an organic substance, but it’s also not like other chemicals either. Is it bad for you? Researchers say no. The molecules are larger and cannot penetrate the skin in the way other surfactants do. It’s considered very gentle on the skin, and is even suitable for more sensitive skin types. It’s manufactured as an added gentle foaming agent in a variety of shampoos, body washes, bubble baths, cleaning lotions, hand soaps, and cream rinses. It’s highly water soluble and can be added to any formula with no reconstruction of the compounds. Since it’s not sulfated in production, it will be free of sulfates (the salt of sulfuric acid which is potentially harmful to the skin).

    How it Compares to Sodium Lauryl Sulfate

    It’s often incorrectly compared to Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS) as they’re both used in cosmetic products as a foaming agent and emulsifier. SLS is another common chemical found in cosmetic products such as shampoo scalp treatments, and body washes. The biggest difference between the two chemicals is that sodium lauryl sulfate is more chemically modified and contains smaller molecules that can penetrate and irritate the skin. Sodium Lauryl Sulfate is considered more hazardous to the skin.

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    SLSA seems to be safe:

    http://www.hgspecialist.com/informatie/blog/94.why-good-shampoo-does-not-contain-sls


    What is the alternative?
    In all, there is a growing demand for shampoos without SLS or SLES. A recommendable alternative is sodium lauryl sulfoacetate(SLSA). Although this substance sounds very similar to both SLS and SLES, it is not a sulfate and lacks many of the negative traits discussed earlier.

    SLSA is extracted from coconut or palm oil and is much friendlier to the skin. It is not aggressive and irritating to the skin. Also, it doesn’t dehydrate the skin. Contrary to SLS and SLES, SLSA is hydrophilic, meaning it is dissolvable in water. Due to this, no residuals remain on the follicles after a shower. Also, the dioxane hazard is absent in SLSA shampoos.

    Despite these clear advantages, SLSA is not yet broadly applied in shampoos. This is simply because it is more expensive to produce, and is subsequently only used in high-quality shampoos.

    DLS:

    http://slsfree.net/disodium-laureth-sulfosuccinate/

    Disodium laureth sulfosuccinate is a chemical found in hair and skin products. Quite simply, it’s a de-greasing, emulsifier, and foaming agent used in many shampoos and other cleaning products much like SLS and SLES. It’s not an organic substance, but it’s also not like other chemicals either. Is it bad for you? Researchers say no. The molecules are larger and cannot penetrate the skin in the way other surfactants do. It’s considered very gentle on the skin, and is even suitable for more sensitive skin types. It’s manufactured as an added gentle foaming agent in a variety of shampoos, body washes, bubble baths, cleaning lotions, hand soaps, and cream rinses. It’s highly water soluble and can be added to any formula with no reconstruction of the compounds. Since it’s not sulfated in production, it will be free of sulfates (the salt of sulfuric acid which is potentially harmful to the skin).

    How it Compares to Sodium Lauryl Sulfate

    It’s often incorrectly compared to Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS) as they’re both used in cosmetic products as a foaming agent and emulsifier. SLS is another common chemical found in cosmetic products such as shampoo scalp treatments, and body washes. The biggest difference between the two chemicals is that sodium lauryl sulfate is more chemically modified and contains smaller molecules that can penetrate and irritate the skin. Sodium Lauryl Sulfate is considered more hazardous to the skin.
     

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