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Sodium Laurent Sulfate?

Discussion in 'Styling & Hair Care Tips for AGA Sufferers' started by Sydney033, Apr 12, 2005.

  1. Sydney033

    Sydney033 Guest

    Hi Ladies,

    This is my first post since the site was hacked a few weeks ago--So it's good to be back!! :D

    I was wondering about this ingredient--Sodium Laurent Sulfate--that is put in most shampoo's on the market. Over the past few months I have been hearing that it could be detrimental to one''s hair health.

    Do any of you ladies have any info/opionions on this? Should I avoid it like the plague!?
     
  2. Ainhoa

    Ainhoa Guest

    Hi,
    a few months ago i heard the same thing about SLS, so I asked my sister, who's herborist (she's got a 4 years University degree in that field). She said that a recent study had lifted the suspect tha SLS in very big quantities could cause cancer. When i heard it i got scared too, but lately my sister told me that actually this thesis was not reliable.I trust her not only 'cos she's my sister, but also 'cos I I think that if SLS were so harmful most people would get cancer, since it's contained also in most soaps (it's the substance used to make the bubbles)!
    Anyway you can find some hygiene products (so shampoos are included) without SLS. There are not many trademarks, but they exist in Europe (where I live) you'll surely find them in the U.S.
    I hope to hear from you soon
    Ainhoa
    P.d: if you (or anyone else) would like to ask questions about herbs and/or natural products just tell me: I'll ask my sister and write the answers here!
     
  3. SallyTurney

    SallyTurney Guest

    Hi there SLS is the ingredient which makes the foaming effect. It can be drying to hair but generally they add moisturisers/oils to compensate this. It is quite rare to find a shower gel/bath foam/shampoo without it, because most people don't feel 'clean' unless they experience the lather :))
     
  4. CC

    CC Guest

    Jason's Thickening Shampoo & Conditioner are SLS free and quite nice. They also include Biotin and other essential hair vitamins. I started using Jason's shampoo last month and I like it. It does seem to thicken my hair a bit. I alternate using it with other shampoos to give my hair a break from the SLS. :)
     
  5. texan girl

    texan girl Guest

    i am using Jason's Thin to Thick shampoo every morning. it has definitely made my hair feel thicker. do you think it is bad to use everyday? also, when i get out of the shower, my hair is so tangled by it that when i brush, my hairs breaks off easily. :? so i am thinking i should probably use the Jason's Thin to Thick conditioner, you all agree? i just worry that it will make my hair weighed down. any opinions? thanks for all your help! :)
     
  6. teester

    teester Guest

    I am sure this has been asked before....where can you purchase Jason's
    Thin to Thick products?
     
  7. SallyTurney

    SallyTurney Guest

    Hi Texan girl, make sure you use a real soft wide tooth comb instead of a brush. If you use a brush at all, make sure it is made of pure bristle as these are much kinder to hair and scalp:))
     
  8. CC

    CC Guest

    Texan Girl: Yes, use a conditioner. I use conditioner every time I wash my hair. I absolutely have to, my hair tangles so unbelievably easy! Especially now since this hairloss hell started. :evil: I also use Jason’s Thin to Thick Conditioner periodically, it does help detangle. Also, from your message it sounds like you are brushing your hair when it is wet. If so, please stop. Brushing wet hair will positively cause breakage. Try using a wide tooth comb and start from the ends and work your way to the top of your head. This should help minimize breakage. :)

    Teester: Jason’s hair products can usually be found at any health food store. Otherwise they also have a website. 8)
     
  9. teester

    teester Guest

    thanks cc....going today to get some. :D
     
  10. Zannie

    Zannie Guest

    Dessert Essence products are also SLS free! They add lovely Tea Tree Oil and Awapui to their products! And talk about CLEAN!!! There’s nothing like to cool, crisp feeling of Tea Tree Oil on the skin and scalp!!!! A stupendous line of Shampoos, Conditioners, Body Wash, Lotions, Lip Treatments, and Anti-Aging Creams with 3-Acetyl Hexapeptide – some may know this as Argirelene! :D
     
  11. Sydney033

    Sydney033 Guest

    Hi Ladies,

    Thanks so much for the info. I bought some biotin shampoo from my health store :)

    Ainhoa--that's so great your sister's a herborist! She must be a great source of info for you
     
  12. teester

    teester Guest

    Can you get Dessert Essence at a store (and where?) or do you have to order it online?
     
  13. firefly

    firefly Guest

    How Pantene Pro-V destroyed my hair..

    I have done so much work trying to determine what was/is causing my hair loss. Ive seen a handful of specialists, unnecessarily and wasted so much money. It never occurred to me that what might be aggravating and accelerating my hair loss.
    I was using pantene pro-v for almost two years. The hair loss seemed to be getting worse around the same time as I committed myself to using pantene. I noticed that ever time I finished shampooing, I would see a red irritated scalp in the mirrow. I just shrugged it off, I shouldnt have.
    Ive heard from many people that pantene is not good foryour hair,and readso because Pantenes shampoo contain no ammonium lauryl sulfate, the harshest of the family of detergents used in haircare and skincare products. I switched to a shampoo not containint ALS and have noticed such a difference in my hair,its softer, theres no more redness and the condition of my scalp is so much better, which I know helps with the regrowth.
    Another problem I have been researching about. Is hair pH., which is how acidic or basic something is. When hair is dry there is no pH, when it is wet it is slightly acidic, any derivation of the intended pH can cause the hair cuticle to break, so Ive read. Ive since started using Redken products because all their products take hair pH into account which prevents hair care related hair loss.

    Switching to salon products have really helped me keep my hair healthier. Does anyone have any similar experiences or heard of the ravoc that Pantene can cause on hair.
     
  14. SallyTurney

    SallyTurney Guest

    That's interesting. I have to say, because I'm in the industry, I've used the best of the best professional products on my hair for years. Anything else would feel like I was using washing up liquid! Then a few years ago I hit hard times for a few months and couldn't afford the good stuff so I gave Pantene a try. I was stunned that something SO cheap could do so much for my hair, but I now wouldn't go back to any other. In fact I have free access to the best salon products and I still use my Pantene...but that is just my personal experience of it.

    I'm a great believer in finding products which are PH balanced. The PH is a scale used to determine how acid or alkaline something is. The higher the number the more alkaline it is, the lower, the more acidic. Water is usually 7, so neutral. Ideally what we want is to apply things which are slightly acidic, because the PH of healthy skin is 5.5 and in the interests of keeping it healthy, we want to be getting as close to this as possible. Some soaps etc can have a PH of 9 so you can see how alkaline that is. About ten years ago Johnson & Johnson brought out their Ph 5.5 range, which revolutionised the way everyday products are made and now the majority of products will have an improved Ph.
     
  15. firefly

    firefly Guest

    ALS

    It is interesting. At first I was skeptical to believe that a simple shampoo could cause any serious damage to the hair. But ive been reading various article and talking with my hair dresser and some scientists ( Im a med student in NE) who seem to agree that ammonium lauryl sulfate, which is contained in pantene, can cause hair loss, because of its harshness to the follicle. Some say that Pantene , initially works wonders on the hair, making hair glossy and appear healthier, but over time it causes the hair follicle to miniturize and eventually die.
    I dont know how long one needs to use the chemical for it to kill the follicle, but is it is only a theory presently and no long term scientific data has yet been presented to support this.
     
  16. September

    September Guest

    I just started using Pravana Hydrating shampoo recently, it has no SLS. I wear a system & find that shampoo tends to dry it out big time, but since I've been using the Pravana (about 6 weeks now) I've noticed a big difference in how it feels right after shampooing.
     
  17. SallyTurney

    SallyTurney Guest

    I would be dismissive about using Pantene causing long term damage, but I do think it can cause allergies which can then cause damage. The reason hairdressers don't like it, is it contains plasticisers - as you say, these initially make the hair look really glossy and feel smooth, but can make it hard to perm for instance. I have to say, as an experienced user and a hairdressing professional, there is another reason hairdressers don't like it....it gives a better result than most salon shampoos and is cheap as chips :wink:
     
  18. redclaire

    redclaire Guest

    LOL! Would the same be for the Pantene color inhancers maybe? I'm seriously thinking of switching to those. Right now I use Garnier Fructese. I've been using it forever and am at the point where I don't want to switch around too much. I'm trying to evaluate my shed and don't want to second guess myself.
     
  19. SallyTurney

    SallyTurney Guest

    we don't have the Pantene color enhancers over here...I think we each need to use what suits us. I am often working with big budgets which would allow me to spend £30 on a bottle of shampoo, yet still I spend £2 on Pantene. I would never tell my collegues of course! I'll let them keep thinking I'm still using redken! :wink:
     
  20. redclaire

    redclaire Guest

    LOL! Well, I'll read the back of the bottles and compare ingrediants. *I* thought I had more of a shed with Pantene too, but looking back I am thinking that it's just that I was shedding and everything freaks me out. The hair cut has improved my view thus far... I'm just in a fight to keep the ends from drying out too much. I think I need to look for a good leave in conditioner just for the ends. Bad enough that the hair is shedding, but to have what is in my head turning to straw is frustrating.
     

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